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« on: May 14, 2010, 02:45:18 PM »

Last night I got beat in a very high speed scissors by a 109 F in my usual F4U-1a so I went in the TA this afternoon and it was very crowded with trainers so I asked if one wanted to help with me with flat scissors. Badboy raised his hand and off we went he flew the 109 f I flew the F4U. I did not know and I could not do it myself but he told me the 109 f are the best turners and can turn with the spits. When he was low with fuel I couldn't turn with that 109 for anything.

Also when I would reverse my turn I have a tendency to drop my nose and this is not good to do when you are trying to slow down. No matter how hard I try I always drop the nose when I reverse my turn doesn't matter how much flaps I have out either. Can anyone tell me how not to have a droopy nose when reversing my turn? I have a set of rudder pedals coming morfiend says it is much easier not to do that with pedals than with a twisty but it seems that they would work the same, I mean they both work the rudder, right, and I was giving hard opposite rudder in the turn and the nose would still drop. I also learned that a rolling scissors would of been better than a flat one with that particular plane.


Edit : Well, after a little more experimenting I have found anything over a 45 degree bank and the nose drops so I guess my banking in the turns was to high.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2010, 11:17:01 AM »

The 109F as far as the 109 set goes is the best dogfighter of the bunch, very agile and light (similiar to spit V in performance).  I actually had a very high K/D ratio in that plane when I flew it early on in early war.  It's better to get in rolling scissors with the 109 series for the fact that they are so light the torque is a big factor in their rolls.  The F isn't so bad in a rolling scissors but the later model you go, the harder it is to pull off becouse of the increasing engine torque.  The 109's torque makes you have to get back on the throttle real easy, or risk stalling.

As far as holding your nose level in a hard bank, it's not uncommon for me to see this with the hog.  I remember having someone else that was having a hard time with this.  After a while you learn to automatically compensate for this, the hard part is getting this into muscle memory.  Only way to do this is to practice it repeatedly, holding it in a flat turn as long as possible and once you get consistent with one direction reverse your turn and go the opposite direction.  Once you get used to holding it both directions then practice flopping it from one side to the other quickly to simulate a flat scissors.  Stuff like this is hard to teach becouse you are trying to teach something that you now do instictively.  That's why repeate practice with this stuff is so important.

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